JeffBlichmann wrote:
A few questions:
1. Is the OCR labeled as "Multilin-750" on the 52-GM breaker the one with the 51V element?
2. You say the arcing fault current is 2.78kA but the total Ia on the bus is 15.067kA. Are you expecting one of breakers 52-G1, G2, or G3 clear the fault? Or should 52-GM clear it?
3. On your curve, one of them is labeled G30G1, but the other is not labeled. What is the other one?
1. No, the G30G1/G2/G3 relays are the ones with the 51V element. I should have clarified, this switchgear has 3 generators (not shown downstream), which are feeding the utility (not shown upstream).
2. 52GM clears the contribution from the utility side. 51G1/G2/G3 have to clear the fault from the generator side.
3. The other curve is the same relay but shifted to show an earlier tripping time due to the voltage restraint function.
PaulEngr wrote:
I don't see any details on sources in the diagrams. Why would 51V trigger? Is the voltage drop during fault conditions enough for transformer impedance to play a role? Compared to 15+ kA where a "collapse" as you refer to it happens, an arcing fault is only 20% of that number...not so much that I would assume that an undervoltage trip would occur. Try doing the transformer voltage calculation by hand and see how much of a drop you actually get.
When I run the protection / coordination study in ETAP, and I fault the bus CD4, it triggers the 51V and shows a quick trip time of ~2.2seconds.
However when i move into Arc-Flash mode, the software doesn't use the voltage restraint function and rather relies on the full range of the tripping curve to 'keep things more conservative'.
Since I posted this question, I confirmed this with ETAP customer support, and also confirmed this with the engineering company that performed the coordination study (arc-flash wasn't in their scope, hence I'm doing the arc-flash study).
ETAP customer support suggested that I note the tripping times from the star coordination study, and manually enter in those clearing times in the arc-flash study to obtain more realistic incident energy results and clearing times.
I would like to double check this (and for my own learning) use the hand calc that you mentioned. Can you point me to where I would get started on this calc? (I've relied on software primarily in the past, I know, i'm ashamed).