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| Author: | MattB [ Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Survey - Energized Work Permit Signatures |
Energized work permits require the approval of management. Who specifically is involved in your energized work permits? How far up the ladder do the signatures go, and at what type of facility? |
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| Author: | Jim Phillips (brainfiller) [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:45 am ] |
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I Cheated this week. Matt B posted a great question towards the end of last week so I moved it up to the "Question of the Week" Thanks Matt! |
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| Author: | mikefaught [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:23 am ] |
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At our plant only the Site Manager has the authority to sign the Energized Work Permit. |
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| Author: | David Nelson [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:55 am ] |
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MattB wrote: Energized work permits require the approval of management. Who specifically is involved in your energized work permits? How far up the ladder do the signatures go, and at what type of facility? We are an electrical construction company, have twelve offices across the country and so hence we work in many different situations. Some of them are existing and well known facilities that have coordination and arc flash studies recently completed, others are new to us and are unknown. Still others are ones we have constrcuted, have preliminary studies only (source only) on them and we are ussually only doing testing (start-up) tasks. For any of our permit type tasks we require the person (not our employee) who is requesting the work sign and justify the energized work permit after signing and rejecting a Request for Power Outage document. In-house approval signatures, are based on the level of exposure, but require at a minimum a field manager (Superintendnent or Project Manager) signature, the Safety Manger and a fellow "qualified" person signature. If the exposure is over 8 cal/cm^2 then it requires a Regional Authority (General Manage or V.P. of Copnstruction) signature. This has effectively inhibited much of the "old school" attitude regarding energized work. Nothing is without flaw, so we still have a few "cowboys" who think the rules do not apply to them, but eventually they will go the way of the Dodo bird. For those situations where the facility is unknown and energized work is justifiable there are five others, led by myself, who do calculations using SKM's Arc Calc to determine the exposures. This has greatly improved our ability to provide professiona, safe service for our customers. This week I have updated our Electrical Safety Program training manual to comply with the 2012 Standard and will begin this Friday to re-train and update the manuals of the field suprers and our service dept. |
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| Author: | Vincent B. [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:00 am ] |
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David Nelson wrote: ... but eventually they will go the way of the Dodo bird. I'm not sure that's the best way to say what you mean. It could be wrongly understood. |
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| Author: | Terry Becker [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:11 pm ] |
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Have to be careful here, need this process to work. At a minimum the Qualified Electrical Worker's Supervisor should sign. Be careful here and ensure that the Electrical Safety Program you use identifies Roles & Responsibilities and the Energized Electrical Work Permit (EEWP) requirements. I also have to add that work at 1.2 cal/cm2 without arc rated clothing is dangerous. With PPE at greater than 1.2 cal/cm2 the risk is accepteable. I find it amazing that an EEWP would be required using an 8 cal/cm2 decision process. The EEWP should be determined based on High Risk Non-Routine Work Tasks and there are only 3-4 I can think of that are typical in industry. |
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| Author: | A King [ Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:10 am ] |
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We are primarily an automotive supplier; we do rollforming, stamping, welding, plastic injection molding and assembly work. We require an EEWP for any work over 50 volts. Work is defined as removing or installing components or conductors; exceptions to a permit include testing, troubleshooting, voltage measurements, resetting a circuit breaker or drive providing appropriate safe work practices and PPE are used. The permit requires three signatures. 1.)The EEWP is completed by the Qualified Electrical Worker (QEW) performing the task. If they believe the job can be done safely, they then sign the permit and submit it to the Maintenance Leader (their boss). By signing the permit they are agreeing to comply with all the safety related work practices and PPE specified on the permit. Associates cannot be punished for refusing to perform live work. 2.)The Maintenance Leader then reviews the permit and by signing agrees that the energized work specified is justified and that the results of the shock and arc flash hazard analysis are complete and sufficient. 3.)The permit must then be signed by an independent reviewer (Electrical Engineering Manager, Company Master Electrician or any Member of the Electrical Safety Committee who is a QEW). The permit must be posted at the jobsite where the energized work is being performed and then routed to the Safety Manager upon completion for retention. |
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| Author: | InspectorBill [ Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:20 pm ] |
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We require two management signatures- Electrical Supervisor and either the I&E Dept Supt or the Plant Electrical Engineer. |
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