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What is the largest bolted three phase short circuit current you have seen in an arc flash study?
Less than 25 kA 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
25 kA to 65 kA 28%  28%  [ 13 ]
Over 65 kA to 100 kA 37%  37%  [ 17 ]
Over 100 kA to 200 kA 22%  22%  [ 10 ]
Over 200 kA 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:26 pm 
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What is the largest bolted three-phase short circuit current you have seen in an arc flash study for systems 600 volts or less?
  • Less than 25 kA
  • 25 kA to 65 kA
  • Over 65 kA to 100 kA
  • Over 100 kA to 200 kA
  • Over 200 kA
Details such as the utility company and system configuration are always appreciated!

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Paralleled sources: both multiple backup generators and dual feeds with closed transition M-T-M configuration.


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Con-Edison, New York's downtown LV network. Very high fault current.


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I recently had utility contribution of 186,000 amps from a 500 kva transformer that was quite perplexing. After numerous phone calls and explanations how that did not seem possible the proper utility contribution was revised to 21,855.
If the utility company's information is suspect, keep asking for better information.


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Con Es has very High Fault current of 150 kA or higher


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280K at Copper Cliff Mines main service with all loads taken into account


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lsilecky wrote:
280K at Copper Cliff Mines main service with all loads taken into account


I'm sure you can get equipment that's rated against 300 kA, but would the 'special' prices that come along with it even be worth it for distribution?

Personally the scariest fault current I've found was around 150 kA, with equipment rated to about a third of that. The customer paralleled 4 transformers to equalize loading, not considering the increased fault levels. It had been that way for a while, too, thankfully without incident. Thankfully the transformers had the same winding configuration as well.


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Thanks for everyone's input on this one! This time the question of the week wasn't just a curiosity question to establish how people handle certain situations. This question was to help gauge how high the upper limit of the next edition of IEEE 1584 should be. Everyone's input was most helpful!

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lsilecky wrote:
280K at Copper Cliff Mines main service with all loads taken into account[/quote
Where do you find a 200+ kA interrupting rating? That is quite unusually large.


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