1. Create Your User Profile and Status Updates

    Arc Flash Forum members are invited to create a user profile. Let others know who you are, what you do and even add a picture or avatar of yourself. What are you up to? Let people in the arc flash and electrical safety community know with "status updates"!
  2. Welcome to the All New Arc Flash Forum

    Arc Flash Forum is a community where we help each other learn about arc flash and electrical safety. There is still much to be learned about arc flash, standards, PPE, studies and more and We need your HELP!

    If you have good information about Arc Flash - Post It! If you have a question about Arc Flash - Post It! If you can provide answers to Arc Flash questions - Post it!

    Sign up as a today member! Feel free to link to this site www.arcflashforum.com. Tell your friends. We want to help everyone be safe in the workplace!
  3. Bigger and Better!

    As you have no doubt noticed, the forum has been through quite an upgraded and looks and feels very nice! There are loads of new features and ways in which this site can now be even more useful to the community in learning about Arc Flash and Electrical Safety.

    Create your detailed user profile
    Add a profile photo of yourself
    Like the forum on Facebook
    "Like" users' posts
    Publish your articles in the library
    ...and much, much more!

    Learn More About the New Features Here

Modeling a NGR on a 2MW 4.16kV GEN in SKM PTW

Discussion in 'Software for Arc Flash Studies' started by SirSpark, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. SirSpark New Member

    Does anyone have any experience modeling a Neutral Grounding Resistor (NGR) connected to a MV Generator?

    I'm preempting and starting a discussion now, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

    (Moderators if this is in the wrong forum please move, thanks)
  2. acobb Well-Known Member

    If the NGR is sized and rated properly, I would expect no line to ground IE to speak of. But then, the calcs are and assume 3 phase, so does the NGR really come into play?
  3. SirSpark New Member

    Yeah exactly since the NGR limits the ground fault current to minimal levels. I assume it will affect the SLG Available Fault Current.

    Would it be appropriate to connect a resistor to the same bus as the generator but I don't think that would work since it would be putting it across the phase conductors as well. Though I haven't really looked at the characteristics of the resistor block (the block in the SKM software)
  4. SirSpark New Member

    Silly me, this would be covered under the neutral impedance input section of the medium voltage generator device within the program.

    Would this also apply for the primary substation utility transformer NGR. As in would you incorporate this into the transformers impedance?
  5. acobb Well-Known Member

    I am not familiar with the software....expect someone else here is though.
  6. Terawatt New Member

    Ngr

    SKM's "Plant" Example Project (check it out) shows a Neutral Grounding Resistor graphically tied to a transformer symbolically, but it is obviousy not tied to the 3-phase bus. Running the study calc modules will give you a 'bus not connected' warning, but it will not affect your 3-phase calcs. When you are doing your GND TCC's, any protective relay(s) you have for the NGR will obviously need to show up somewhere in your overall coordination planning. I recently obtained the protective relay settings from a utility for their NGR on their Utility Tie XFMR and superimposed their relay setting curves on the existing curves for the downstream plant ground protective relays and found a pretty major miscoordination. The utility settings were lower (for the applicable Ignd<400A range) than those of the switchgear's group main breaker they fed and many of the plant's feeder breakers on that bus. The right ground fault on several of the plant's 5kV feeders could unfortunately trip the 115kV Utility Circuit Switcher feeding the Utility Tie Transformer's primary (we are straightening that out now)! I got off on a tangent, but that's how I've handled NGR's with SKM.

Share This Page